Wikigogy is C L O S E D Wikigogy saw little action. So I closed it. It had been an interesting two years with some spurts of generous content writing from a handful of people. However, most months had seen no activity except spam bot fighting. Wikigogy -- Closed as of August, 2008 -- was a networking Web site for teachers of English as a second or foreign language. Site may be removed soon. For now to fight spam efficiently Wikigogy will periodically be reverted to its August, 2008 state. Comments about the site closure are welcome on the Main page. --Roger 14:47, 24 August 2008 (CDT)

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Contents 1 No more imports please 2 Naming conventions 3 User page 4 Image:Yescheck.png 5 Copyright 5.1 Important 6 Free wiki farms

[edit] No more imports please

[edit] Naming conventions

Asher, I have renamed many of your new Wikigogy pages per Wikigogy naming conventions. I have tried to update all links accordingly. Please help update any I may have missed. Sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for all your hard work and good will on Wikigogy! :-) --Roger 00:04, 3 January 2007 (PST)

[edit] User page

Asher, please put something on your user page about yourself and your interests in teachers of English as a second or foreign language. Wikigogy users will want a way to get to know you there. Thanks! --Roger 16:29, 1 January 2007 (PST)

[edit] Image:Yescheck.png

Update: I replaced Image:Yescheck.png, of unknown origin, with the public domain image Image:checkmark.png to keep Wikigogy legal. --Roger 13:12, 9 January 2007 (PST)

Done --Roger 12:02, 9 January 2007 (PST)

Was:

Asher, that's a nice green "check mark" Image:Yescheck.png. Where did you get it? Please note that we cannot import anything from Wikipedia because they use the GFDL for their stuff and it is incompatible with our creative commons by-attribution share alike license. We can only use stuff that is licensed public domain or creative commons by-attribution or creative commons by-attribution share alike. Using anything else, such as from Wikipedia, is a copyright violation because we assign the creative commons by-attribution share alike to everything here and you just cannot do that to, for example, GFDL licensed stuff. --Roger 17:16, 1 January 2007 (PST)

At 600x600 it wastes bandwith by the way. We will want something smaller. Where did you get this image? --Roger 17:16, 1 January 2007 (PST)

Maybe even this public domain image: . See, I'm trying to help :-).

See Resource#Clip art

I got that "check mark" from [1] which I am a member of. Asher 14:00, 2 January 2007 (PST)

There is no record there, http://wikiyouth.org/Image:Yescheck.png, of its provenance. So although that site is licensed CC BY which would allow stuff legitimately licensed there to be imported here (but not visa verse because our license, CC BY SA, is more restrictive than their CC BY license) I have doubts regarding the legitimacy of that image being licensed CC BY SA there. A matter you are better placed to correct, as a member there, than I am, it being none of my business there. It is my business on Wikigogy of course. Basically I'd like people to declare and demonstrate the legal provenance off all File Uploads to Wikigogy. I don't think we have accomplish that with this image yet... Right? --Roger 16:15, 2 January 2007 (PST)

I am only trying to help. Asher 16:21, 2 January 2007 (PST)

Thanks. Could you contact Thunderhead on WikiYouth.org and ask him where he got the green Yescheck? --Roger 16:32, 2 January 2007 (PST)

[edit] Copyright

GFDL, the license WikiMedia Foundation wiki's use, is incompatible with the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike license we use on Wikigogy. So we cannot import into Wikigogy anything from any of the WikiMedia Foundation wiki's such as Wikipedia, Wikibooks, Wikia, Wikinews, etc. --Roger 10:13, 2 January 2007 (PST)

[edit] Important

Asher,

Please note that Wikigogy's copyright is incompatible with Wikipedia's copyright. So we cannot cut and paste anything at all between the two sites.

I see text on the new templates you are creating that is from Wikipedia templates. We can't do that.

What we can do is copy the ideas. We must write our own text however. It is harder than cut and paste but it is an important matter of precedence regarding contributions to the project. We must stay legal.

Could you delete the copied text and replace it with whatever you can write yourself? Just write out the stuff from memory and it will probably be in your own words which is what is legal.

Words have copyrights. Ideas do not. (Procedures can be patented but I don't think we will run into trouble with that.)

Can I help you with any of this?

Thanks for your help with Wikigogy. Once you learn all this you can steer newcomers right, too, and if we grow I will need you to. :-)

--Roger 15:58, 2 January 2007 (PST)

[edit] Free wiki farms

Asher, for your Sheboygan projects you might enjoy setting up a free wiki at one of the free wiki farms such as http://wikia.com or http://pbwiki.com. --Roger 10:19, 2 January 2007 (PST)